Should I buy, hold, or sell FSI stock right now?

Flexible Solutions International Inc. (CDA) (FSI) currently earns a Roarable Rating of D (Sell — SELL) with 47/100 RQD Confidence. Stretched risk/reward at 102x P/E (9% return on capital) under elevated 10-year interest-rate pressure.

What is FSI's 12-month price target and RQD AI Jury consensus?

FSI's 12-month base price target is $5.86 (range $4.57 to $9.58), backed by transparent SEC XBRL cash-flow, Form 4 insider, and CBOE options flow analysis.

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Flexible Solutions International Inc. (CDA) (FSI) — RQD Stock Rating Cockpit

$6.16 -1.44% NYSE • Live Quote vs Prior Daily Close (Synced Snapshot) EXT / AFTER-HRS: $6.13

Flexible Solutions International Inc. (CDA) (FSI) carries a Roarable Rating of D (Sell) with 47/100 RQD Confidence due to weak cash-flow efficiency and sensitivity to current interest rates. Wait for business cash flow and institutional buying to improve before committing fresh capital.

ROARABLE D • SELL / AVOID Cap $78.7M

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As of 2026-11-03, Flexible Solutions International Inc. (CDA) (NYSE: FSI) is rated D (Sell / SELL) by Roarable's 5-pillar RQD engine with a composite confidence score of 47/100 at a spot price of $6.16 (-1.44% 1D, market cap $78.7M). Pillar breakdown: Fundamental Cash Engine 11/20, Institutional 13F & Options Flow 8/20, SEC Balance-Sheet Forensics 12/20, FRED Macro Regime Fit 12/20, and Executive Insider Alignment 4/20. Across 270 tracked Materials issuers, FSI ranks #113 in composite RQD confidence.

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Within the Materials sector (Major Chemicals), FSI carries a Roarable D (47/100 RQD), trailing P/E of 101.5x, gross margin of 32.6%, and ROIC of 8.5%. By comparison, ARQ (Arq Inc.) holds a E grade (31/100 RQD, P/E N/A, ROIC -24.6%, cap $77.3M) and AMTX (Aemetis Inc.) posts a E grade (28/100 RQD, P/E N/A, ROIC -35.0%, cap $90.2M). Among the 5-stock peer group, FSI leads on earnings multiple (101.5x) while FSI leads on capital efficiency (8.5% ROIC).

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Per FSI's SEC EDGAR XBRL 10-K filing (FY2025, filed 2025-12-31, CIK 0001069394), Flexible Solutions International Inc. (CDA) generated $38.5M in revenue (+0.7% YoY), $786.9K in net income, and -$591.7K in free cash flow against $61.8M in total assets and $4.0M in total debt. Key quantitative strengths: Established market leader in Materials with deep daily trading liquidity. Primary risk factors monitored: Company executives have done more routine share selling than personal cash buying lately. Institutional options positioning shows a 50% call / 50% put premium split.

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EXT / AFTER-HRS: $6.13 (-0.45%)🧬 Dilution Drag (+2.20% YoY Shares)⚙️ Cash Engine: 11/20 (D+) • 0% FCF Margin

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📊 Historical Track Record Warning: Scores below 50 (47/100 · D) historically underperformed SPY in 71% of rolling 90-day windows (-5.9% avg 90D alpha vs SPY • 29.0% hit rate).

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RQD QUANT TACHOMETERSELL / AVOID • D

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5-PILLAR SNOWFLAKE RADARRw D- · Rk C-

Each axis scored 0–20

12M PRICE TARGET CONE-4.9% Base Target

WHALE OPTIONS SNAPSHOT: — (No Active Options Snapshot on file for FSI)Realized 20D OHLCV Swing Band: ±6.4%

Deterministic 5-Pillar Attribution (47/100 Composite)

🔍 WHY FSI SCORES 47/100 (D) — TOP 3 DRIVERS2 Bullish Pillars + #1 Risk Drag

▲ #1 Bullish Driver: SEC 10-K Forensic Risk+12/20 pts (26% of score)

Altman Z-Score 4.26 (FORTRESS SAFE (>3.0)) • Piotroski F-Score 6/9

▲ #2 Bullish Driver: Macro Regime Fit+12/20 pts (26% of score)

FRED Regime × Technicals: 31% of 52W Range • RSI-14 at 50.6 (NEUTRAL RANGE)

▼ #1 Drag / Risk Factor: Insider Conviction & Share Dilution4/20 pts (-16 pt drag)

Dilution Drag (+2.20% YoY Shares) & executive Form 4 sales trim 16 pts from alignment

📈 PAST 4 QUARTERS RQD vs SUBSEQUENT RETURNQ1 → Q2 → Q3 → Current

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Grade E$6.08+4.8% Next Q

Q2 (-2Q)

Grade D$6.37-1.7% Next Q

Q3 (-1Q)

Grade D$6.26-1.6% Next Q

Current

Grade D$6.16-5.9% Hist 90D α

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While FSI currently carries a cautious 47/100 (D) rating due to Insider Conviction & Share Dilution (4/20), shorts face asymmetric squeeze risk if free cash flow inflects or management executes accretive buybacks.

🚀 Contrarian Squeeze Trigger #1

Established market leader in Materials with deep daily trading liquidity.

🚀 Contrarian Squeeze Trigger #2

Options & Short-Covering Gamma: Reclaiming the 50-day SMA ($5.99) and Max Pain ($6.47) forces dealer call-delta covering toward $9.58.

🚀 Contrarian Squeeze Trigger #3

Forensic Repair Trigger: Halting share dilution (Dilution Drag (+2.20% YoY Shares)) or retiring high-cost debt immediately upgrades the SEC 10-K Forensic pillar.

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RSI-14 MOMENTUMNEUTRAL RANGE

50.630 Oversold · 70 Hot

ALTMAN-Z SHIELDFORTRESS SAFE (>3.0)

4.26>3.0 Fortress Safe

PIOTROSKI F-SCORESOLID CORE (5–6)

6 / 99-Pt Accounting

52-WEEK LASER RANGE31% OF RANGE

L: $5$6.16H: $9

1. Money & Cash Health● MIXED

Are profits real cash in the bank?

Decent core business (32.6% gross margin), though cash flow growth is moderate rather than explosive right now.

Factor Grade: D+RQD 11 / 20

2. Big Money & Insiders● TRIMMING

Are whales & executives buying or selling?

Insiders and big institutional desks have been trimming shares rather than stepping up to buy.

Factor Grade: ERQD 12 / 40

3. Hidden Risks & Market Weather● WATCH

SEC fine-print scan & interest-rate fit

No major SEC filing blowups, though current interest rates and Fed liquidity call for normal position sizing.

Factor Grade: C-RQD 24 / 40

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NEUTRAL (55)

8.5% ROIC with 32.6% gross margin and -0.74% FCF yield.

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10-K Accruals & Altman-Z Guard

NEUTRAL (60)

Altman-Z 4.26 and Piotroski 6/9 pass balance-sheet audit.

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BEARISH (40)

12/40 institutional & smart-money positioning score with 12/20 macro alignment.

Bull Case: Why Buyers Like FSI

✓Established market leader in Materials with deep daily trading liquidity.

Bear Case: What Could Go Wrong

!Company executives have done more routine share selling than personal cash buying lately.
!Priced at 102x earnings—high expectations leave less room for a lukewarm quarter.
!Recent SEC filings added new risk-factor disclosures that warrant keeping an eye on margins.

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FSI // CANDLESTICK & AUTO-TRENDLINE WORKSTATION6M: -0.81%🛡️ HOLDING TREND SUPPORT

2026-11-03O $6.25H $6.25L $6.16C $6.16VOL 18.3K

RES: $6.50SUP: $6.16SMA50: $5.99SMA200: $5.87

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Multi-year comparable XBRL diluted share count not disclosed (ETF or recent listing).

Reverse-DCF Expectations Hurdle

48.0%/yr Implied 5Y Growth

vs. +0.7% actual YoY revenue growth (assuming 9.25% cost of equity & 16.5x terminal multiple).

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Materials Rank #113 of 270 ⚔️ ARQ vs FSI Full Matrix →

1. Head-to-Head Materials Peer Comparison (FSI vs. ARQ, AMTX, LNZA, CITR)

Industry: Major Chemicals (67 Tracked Issuers)

Across 270 tracked Materials securities in the Roarable RQD universe, Flexible Solutions International Inc. (CDA) (FSI) ranks #113 by composite RQD confidence (47/100, grade D) and #234 by equity capitalization ($78.7M). Within this direct 5-issuer industry benchmark cohort, FSI leads on earnings valuation at 101.5x trailing P/E, while FSI leads on capital efficiency and profitability with 8.5% ROIC and 32.6% gross margin. FSI currently leads its immediate peer cohort in composite quantitative strength at 47/100 (D).

Ticker / Company	Roarable Grade	RQD Score	Trailing P/E	Gross Margin	ROIC	1D Change	Market Cap	Head-to-Head
FSI ACTIVE Flexible Solutions International Inc. (CDA)	D	47/100	101.5x	32.6%	8.5%	-1.44%	$78.7M	Benchmark Subject
ARQ Arq Inc.	E	31/100	—	—	-24.6%	0.00%	$77.3M	/arq-vs-fsi →
AMTX Aemetis Inc.	E	28/100	—	-0.4%	-35.0%	-3.10%	$90.2M	/amtx-vs-fsi →
LNZA LanzaTech Global Inc.	E	26/100	—	—	-35.0%	-8.06%	$67.1M	/lnza-vs-fsi →
CITR CitroTech Inc.	E	18/100	—	22.3%	-35.0%	+1.59%	$63.9M	/citr-vs-fsi →

2. Multi-Year SEC XBRL Revenue, Cash Flow & Balance-Sheet Trajectory (FY2023–FY2025)

SEC EDGAR 10-K • FILED 2025-12-31 • CIK 0001069394 ↗

In its most recent audited fiscal period (FY2025, filed 2025-12-31), Flexible Solutions International Inc. (CDA) (FSI) reported GAAP revenue of $38.5M (+0.7% vs. FY2024 revenue of $38.2M , and +0.5% cumulative change since FY2023) , GAAP net income of $786.9K, operating cash flow of $3.8M, and free cash flow of -$591.7K (-198.0% YoY). On the balance sheet, FSI closed FY2025 with $61.8M in total assets against $4.0M in total debt (Altman Z-Score: 4.26, Piotroski F-Score: 6/9).

Fiscal Period	Filing Date	Revenue	Net Income	Operating Cash Flow	Free Cash Flow	Total Assets	Total Debt
FY2025 (FY)	2025-12-31	$38.5M	$786.9K	$3.8M	-$591.7K	$61.8M	$4.0M
FY2024 (FY)	2024-12-31	$38.2M	$3.0M	$5.6M	$603.6K	$60.0M	$6.6M
FY2023 (FY)	2023-12-31	$38.3M	$2.8M	$6.1M	$6.1M	—	—

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Where is FSI trading relative to its 50-day, 200-day, and 52-week technical levels?

FSI last traded at $6.16 (-1.44% on volume of 18,282 shares), positioning the stock +2.84% above its 50-day simple moving average ($5.99) and +4.94% above its 200-day simple moving average ($5.87). Across its 52-week range of $4.85 to $9.12, FSI sits at the 30.7% percentile with a 14-day RSI of 50.6 (NEUTRAL RANGE) and an implied next-earnings move of ±6.4% ($5.77 to $6.55).

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ROARABLE RATING BRIEF • RQD 47/100 (D) ✓ SEC XBRL & RQD VERIFIED

FSI — Flexible Solutions International Inc. (CDA): What the Facts Mean to a Prospective Investor

Methodology: RQD v6.2 Deterministic 5-Pillar & SEC XBRL Audit

Updated: 2025-12-31

1. Roarable Rating Brief: What This Means to a Prospective Investor

Flexible Solutions International Inc. (CDA) (FSI) earns a live Roarable RQD composite score of 47/100, corresponding to a D letter grade (Roarable Sell) at a spot price of $6.16 (-1.44% 1D, market capitalization $78.7M).

Fundamental Cash Engine (11/20): Anchored by return on invested capital (ROIC) of 8.5%, gross margin of 32.6%, operating margin of 11.9%, and free cash flow yield of -0.74%.
Whale 13F & Options Flow (8/20) + Insider Conviction (4/20): Tracks institutional 13F accumulation, CBOE options call/put positioning, and SEC Form 4 / Congressional PTR filings.
Macro Regime Fit (12/20) + Forensic Balance Sheet (12/20): Incorporates a 1.00x equity beta, Altman Z-Score of 4.26, Piotroski F-Score of 6/9, and Debt/Equity of 0.10x.

2. Business Model, Unit Margins & SEC Financial Trajectory

. — for product detail, customer base, or revenue mix. Per the market data, the company reports a gross margin of 32.6% and an operating margin of 11.9%, indicating that revenue is earned at those margin levels. — for how the company sells or to whom.

In its latest audited SEC EDGAR 10-K filing for FY2025 (filed 2025-12-31), Flexible Solutions International Inc. (CDA) (FSI) reported $38.5M in annual revenue (up from $38.2M in FY2024, +0.7% YoY) and $786.9K in GAAP net income. Over the multi-year SEC filing window from FY2023 ($38.3M revenue, $2.8M net income) through FY2025, FSI scaled operating cash flow to $3.8M and free cash flow to -$591.7K, backed by $61.8M in total assets against $4.0M in total debt.

3. Institutional Bull vs. Bear Thesis & Valuation Tradeoff

🐂 Primary Bull Case (D • RQD 47/100): Established market leader in Materials with deep daily trading liquidity. Free cash flow yield of -0.74% and institutional whale pillar of 8/20. With Fundamental Cash Engine at 11/20 and Institutional Whale Flow at 8/20, sustained execution supports upside toward the upper end of the $4.85 – $9.12 52-week range.
🐻 Primary Bear Case & Valuation Risk: Company executives have done more routine share selling than personal cash buying lately. Investors must weigh 101.5x trailing P/E and 10.1x EV/EBITDA against 11.9% operating margins and a 1.00x macro beta.

4. 2nd-Order Butterfly Ripples & Key Questions to Watch

Operating in Major Chemicals (Materials), FSI carries a macro regime beta of 1.00 and gross margin of 32.6%.

Key Question #1: Can FSI sustain or expand its 11.9% operating margin and 8.5% ROIC against Major Chemicals peers over the next 4 quarters?
Key Question #2: Following FY2025 revenue of $38.5M and free cash flow of -$591.7K, how will capital allocation balance growth reinvestment against $4.0M in total debt?
Key Question #3: How sensitive is FSI's 94.4x forward P/E multiple to Materials capital spending cycles and macro interest-rate shifts (Beta 1.00x)?

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🟡 MARKET WIRE Yahoo • 15d ago

FSI ANNOUNCES THIRD QUARTER 2026 REVENUE

TABER, ALBERTA, Oct. 19, 2026 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- FLEXIBLE SOLUTIONS INTERNATIONAL, INC. (NYSE-AMERICAN: FSI), is the developer and manufacturer of biodegradable polymers for oil extraction, detergent ingredients and wat

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🟡 MARKET WIRE Benzinga • 15d ago

Flexible Solutions International Reports Q3 Sales Of $14.35M, Up 36% YoY

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FSI ANNOUNCES THE APPOINTMENT OF DR. KIM REID AS DIRECTOR

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Flexible Solutions International Inc. (FSI) Reports Q2 Loss, Misses Revenue Estimates

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How The Story Is Shifting For Flexible Solutions International (FSI) After Target Cut And Filing Delays

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FSI Bull vs. Bear Conversation Board — What's Your Call at $6.16?

🐂 67% BULLISH CONVICTION COMMUNITY TUG-OF-WAR ON FSI 🐻 33% BEARISH CONVICTION

DE DeltaGamma_99 RQD DEBATE OPENER • Options Flow Specialist 🐂 BULLISH 🎯 Target: $8.01 (+30.0%)

📌 Pinned Debate

Forensic balance sheet is sound, with Altman Z 4.26, Piotroski F 6/9, and Debt/Equity 0.1.

Here is why I am bullish on FSI here at $6.16: Forensic balance sheet is sound, with Altman Z 4.26, Piotroski F 6/9, and Debt/Equity 0.1.. Compare FSI's 11.9% operating margin and 8.5% ROIC against the rest of Major Chemicals. As long as cash conversion holds up, dips toward $5.85 are getting bought.

EarningsSniper 🐂 BULL

Both sides have a point here — FSI's 12/20 balance sheet score keeps downside contained, so the real swing factor next earnings call is backlog and FCF conversion.

SK SkepticalCFA RQD DEBATE OPENER • Fundamental Contrarian 🐻 BEARISH 🎯 Target: $4.80 (-22.1%)

Spot @ $6.16

Free cash flow turned negative in FY 2025 at -$0.6M, the FCF yield is -0.74%, and insider conviction scores only 4/20.

I respect the product at Flexible Solutions International Inc. (CDA), but the stock at $6.16 is a different story. Free cash flow turned negative in FY 2025 at -$0.6M, the FCF yield is -0.74%, and insider conviction scores only 4/20.. FCF yield is -0.74% and RQD sits at 47/100 (D) — why pay up here when you can wait for next quarter's numbers?